Dams or Dams?

Sarah Jones: I find it a very slippery thing because when it happens in broader media there are these claims that there are these democrats running on these extremist positions and in point of fact it's not really there. When we ask people for metaphors they're tortoises, slugs or snails any kind of animal that doesn't move very fast and doesn't get things done. So this argument around you know dams should be more moderate or not is never volunteered by anyone who has been part of our focus groups over the last two years.