Lucy Brogden, Welcome to the Podcass.

Lucy brogden is the chair and commissioner of the national mental health commission in australia. She has a formal qualification in national psychology, similar to myself and joell. We have wanted to have you on for quite a while, lucy. And i do have some comments on hair dresses when you're ready for them. Ouwe might take that o the end in the inther space that we've got for our general conversation. But yet, it's been a while. I'm glad that we finally were able to schedule you in an being such a busy person that you are. So thanks.