Stage 5: Maintenance and Avoiding Relapse

5 Steps For Transformational Change

October 10, 2025 | Episode 5200

Host: Scott Smith

Episode Description

Everyone says they hate change, but here's the thing: what you really want is transformation.

You know that feeling when you're comfortably miserable? Life's not perfect, but at least it's familiar. You want something different, but you're stuck somewhere between "I should do something" and "I'm actually doing it."

Scott breaks down the five stages every transformation goes through and shows you exactly where you're stuck. Because once you know where you are in the process, you can finally move forward.

Featured Story

Picture this: Scott's wife is in the closet having a full-blown change crisis.

One outfit on. Look in the mirror. Change it. Repeat.

It's funny, but it's also exactly what we all do with bigger life decisions. We keep trying on different versions of what we want, never quite committing to walking out the door. Scott shares why his approach isn't about change coaching or life coachy stuff - it's about one thing: getting you from where you are to where you actually want to be. And why knowing the difference between change and transformation changes everything.

Important Points

You're not afraid of transformation itself - you're afraid of not knowing the exact roadmap to get there.

Most people stay stuck in contemplation for years (maybe decades) because they lack two things: a specific outcome and clear next steps.

Maintenance is the stage everyone forgets about, which is why you end up back where you started five years later.

Memorable Quotes

"I'm not a change coach. I'm interested in one thing. What do you want? And can I transform you to get it?"

"It's like, I'm comfortably miserable, but at least I'm comfortable, right?"

"If you know what you want to do and you don't know the exact steps in between, how could you possibly be determined to get there?"

Scott's Three-Step Approach

Get crystal clear on the specific transformation you want - not just "something different," but exactly what that looks like.

Build your roadmap with actual next steps, because determination without direction keeps you spinning in place.

Plan for maintenance from day one, or you'll be right back here in five years doing this all over again.

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