"The magic of the movies is not the red vines, no, it's the movie," says Lecus. "It's the leaving our reality to be completely engrossed in this fictional, or possibly non fictional story your watching" 'You don't want a little icon in the corner being like, 30 seconds to two fresh for this island,' he adds. "'When did it become, you know, ie blunt and consuming coma' - that's what was great about premium cable."