You're Doing More Work Than Can Be Seen

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"You're going to feel tired. Go home exhausted every day because you understand Greg you're doing more work than can't than can be seen," he said. "If you are going to be a benefit to society as a whole you have got to swallow all of that until you see it work and then you have to make sure you put systems."

Greg interviews Dr. Dean Helen Easterling Williams, Pepperdine University Graduate School of Education and Psychology. In an upfront and candid conversation, Greg and Dean Williams explore the difference in their experiences as academics, leaders, and human beings. Dean Williams' perspective as a black woman, academic, and leader on everything going on in America, and how to most effectively move forward and make change, is a conversation you will not want to miss.

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