The Grandpa Used to Be Until Grandfuba

"I've been very grateful because we've had a beautiful succession plan that actually worked," he says. "So far the signs are really good that we're going forward and they're trying to level out the leadershipBecause I was doing too much, but now it's being leveled out." The Carisam is an offshoot of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.