Five Interfaces of the Human Being

MetaTheurgy with Kevin Cann

Kevin Cann is a contributor to Jeffrey Kripal’s book How to Think Impossibly. He is a high-functioning autistic individual whose perspectives inform his philosophical work. Cann is the originator of a worldview he calls Platonic Surrealism.

Kevin Cann explores MetaTheurgy as an expansion of ancient theurgy, reframing ritual, consciousness, and wonderworking through the contemporary lens of his system, Platonic Surrealism. He explains how human beings function as interfaces between awareness, potentiality, monadic consciousness, and the physical world, offering practical methods to restore agency in a postmodern culture marked by alienation. Cann also discusses how ritual, transcendence, and expanded states of mind can foster healing, meaning, and participation in a larger cosmic process.

00:00:01 Introduction: metatheurgy and expanded awareness
00:01:42 Origins, Platonic surrealism, and, ancient theurgy
00:03:48 Wonderworking, UFO summoning, and, altered states
00:07:03 Metamodern, moving beyond postmodern despair
00:12:02 Rituals, daily practices, and, reframing life
00:15:12 Healing, empowerment, and, suffering in modern life
00:29:47 Wonderworking, personal transformation as the core
00:33:21 Freewill, determinism, and, feedback loops
00:44:06 Human beings, monads, souls, and, plasma symbiosis
01:08:53 Conclusion

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(Recorded on December 9, 2025)

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