As ukranian soldiers and civilians continue their fight against the russian army, we're talking about resistance to day. And what are the most effective ways to resist when you may be doing it without weapons? With us to talk about this is historian hallek kachanski who's just published a magisterial study of the underground war in europe during the second world war. The campaigner and activist nathan law, who fought to get the chinese government to honor the democratic rights they themselves had promised to deliver in hong kong and arkade s sky.

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