The Chimp Metaphor and Managing Reactionary Impulses

Having just had his gig canceled in Turkey, Robbie Williams is inadvertently more controversial than ever. To make matters even madder, we speak the day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Robbie Williams joins Andrew Gold on Heretics for one of his rawest and funniest interviews yet — talking about fame, anxiety, cancel culture and the madness of modern life. From Take That to “Angels” to being labelled “toxic” online, Robbie opens up about what it means to survive in a world where everyone seems angry.

He reflects on depression, ego and his search for meaning after superstardom - and reveals why he’s still addicted to fame, even when it hurts. Expect stories about Gary Barlow, Boy George, Ricky Gervais, Lady Gaga, Charlie Kirk and even Donald Trump’s assassination attempt - plus Robbie’s hilarious take on why “everyone with an opinion feels toxic” and why he can’t stop reading the comment sections.

This is the most honest Robbie Williams you’ve ever seen - part confessional, part comedy and completely Heretical.

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Chapters:

0:00 Robbie Williams Highlights

2:30 Robbie Williams WATCHES Heretics?

4:45 Sleeping Really Badly

8:00 Kids Having Phones

11:15 Reading An Article About Himself (Daily Mail)

12:30 Robbie Asking About Hyper-Awareness

15:30 What Is Happening with Heretics

18:30 Accepting Being Shouted At Online

21:00 Purpose and Happiness

22:30 Robbie Retired & Grew A Beard

25:30 Is It Different Being An Older Pop Star

26:45 Vaudeville, Cabaret & Entertainment

27:45 Not Radiohead or Oasis, but Tommy Cooper

28:30 Accidentally Pissing Off Boy George

30:30 We Don’t Have Youth Movements Now

32:30 Why Can’t Robbie Write Another Angels?

36:15 How Angels Saved Robbie’s Career

37:30 When People Sing Angels At Robbie

41:30 Ricky Gervais & Guitar Lessons

43:30 People Criticising Food Waste!

45:20 Charlie Kirk

47:30 Why Is Everyone A Dick?

50:37 Culture Wars & Toxicity

53:10 Getting Jealous of Lady Gaga

55:30 Hopeium

57:30 What Can’t Robbie Afford?

59:30 Needing Fame to Feel Whole

1:01:15 Robbie & Andrew Pranked Shaun Attwood

1:04:30 Why Robbie is Back to Brit Pop

1:07:30 Robbie’s Most Under-Rated Song

1:11:00 A Heretic Robbie Williams Admires

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