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Martin Shaw & Felix Marquardt on Religious Conversion, Being Vulnerable, and the Power of Myths

The Sacred

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The Illusion of Separation

"My journey has also been about trying to figure out what the other is and um in a way black elephant," he says. "There's a tendency among those of us who move to be very condescending towardsthose of us who don't." He adds: "How do you make people realize not in their head but in their body that this idea that someone doesn't look like me or doesn't think like me?"

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