Podcasting Is a Platform That's Starting From Ground Zero

If you're just trying to grow your podcast for the sake of let me try to get like brand sponsorships and all that stuff Absolutely 100% this is if there's a business behind it not just the sponsor. They want to use it as a vehicle for traffic To you know people get their products info products or mastermind so that yeah, absolutely So obviously that affects it either do you care about the downloads initially, right? I Think but I think I think that we need to put this a little bit at this to the context, right? He is I'll say if you're a Coach consultant this is probably gonna apply more to you Rather that if you're  just trying to grow