Property rights came about in an economy without necessarily a huge government, or maybe even no government at all. The idea is that he's asking, when do property rights come about? And he's essentially saying, it's indudgenous. It comes depending on the circumstances. He contrasts this with the american southwest, where the lands are so vast and it's very hard to establish property rights. If you have beave beavers in a certain area, you don't want people from other tribes coming and taking those beavers. So they started establishing property rights because it was worth it.
Economist and author David Henderson talks about his book (co-authored with Steve Globerman) The Essential UCLA School of Economics with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Much of the conversation focuses on the work of Armen Alchian and Harold Demsetz, who both saw economics as a powerful tool for understanding human behavior and how the world works.