What Is the Moral and the Principled Way of Standing Up for the Powerless?

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You hade a famus debate with michel foucot. I wonder how you feel about that debate a few decades later. The main memory i have, what struck me most of the debate, was that i had never seen such an ammoral, not immoral, amoral person in my life. There were no questions of right or wrong, just a question who gats power. So to day, there's also a lot of attention to questions of who has power. But what is the moral and principled way of standing up for those who are powerless, without becoming immoral in that way? Plenty of ways of doing it. Civil rights movement did it very effectively. Any war movement did

Noam Chomsky, professor emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has for many decades been one of the most prominent critics of U.S. foreign policy.

In this week’s conversation, Noam Chomsky and Yascha Mounk discuss the theory of universal grammar, whether identity politics can be left-wing, and how the world should treat an ascendant China.

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