There's a lot of, I guess where do you all see grief other than this like outright example of how the movie starts? Where does grief represented for you all in this movie? Oh, I mean it's all over town. Aragorn is grieving for what he believes is the loss of his relationship with Arwen and the poor hobbitses are all grieving for the loss of their fellows. All four hours just a little bit ago was a Marian Pippen specifically their grief around the loss of the forests,. The loss of their earth, the eco grief. And the fact that hey if we don't do something we're going to lose the shire too.

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