There's a certain range within nature in which the complexity of nature, falls within the certain band. And that is found in jackson pollock's paintingt that's the connection there. I actually took myself to moma, to the museum of modern art in am in in manhattan, and sat in front of one of his famous drippaint for a while and thought, is this reminding me of nature? Ou, that was maybe a stretch, but it's really fun to get a lead like that in in the research literature.

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