i think that where tamler got sort of the heat was was hanging his compatiblist intuitions, or the idea that even if we're not free in any ultimate sense, we can be blamed. And i what i was trying to defend was a sort of different view of thi this,. There are genuine reasons in regarding the agency of an individual that distinguish between people who are responsible and those who are not. I never had your crazy view of like, therefore i should get my asbeat when i drunk drive. It's actually a more reasonable position that yours.

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