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Helping Joe, Episode 12

The Mating Grounds Podcast

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How Many People Do You Have in the Arena With You Right Now?

"I got a lot of negative judgment. Well, anybody does like that's part," he says. "You go in alone instead of going in with other people by choice." The book is based off a quote by Theodore Roosevelt about being in an arena. He doesn't really open up a lot to anybody because he pulls himself away from others.

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