Adventure begins when things start to go wrong. So stop looking for the shortcut. Embrace the difficult journey ahead.

Few embody this ethos better than today’s guest Jason Caldwell.

An extraordinary adventure athlete and beautiful beast of a human, Jason holds 11 world records set across 5 continents and 3 oceans, including a 320-mile unassisted traverse of the Namib desert (the longest desert trek across Namibia), captaining the fastest team to row across the Atlantic Ocean unsupported, and most recently, victory in the Great Pacific Race as captain of the fastest team to ever row from San Francisco to Hawaii, a feat Jason and his 3 teammates accomplished in just 30 days 7 hours, smashing the previous world record by an astonishing 9 days.

In addition, Jason is the CEO of Latitude 35, an experiential leadership and high-performance team building consulting company. He’s a widely sought-after public speaker on the Fortune 500 circuit and has taught at some of the country’s leading business schools, including Wharton, Columbia, Berkeley & West Point.

This is a conversation about what is required to tackle and accomplish audacious goals.

It’s about cultivating resilience, perseverance, and risk-taking. It’s about honing the willingness to fail, leveraging drive, and celebrating humility.

It’s also about ‘healthy quits’—the importance of knowing how, when and why sometimes it’s crucial to just call it a day.

But more than anything, this conversation is about the critical nature of team building. It’s about leadership through experience. Why success is never a solo affair. And how to get the best out those in your orbit.

If you’re into wild stories of adventure this one’s for you. But you don’t have to be the slightest bit athletic to gain significant value out of what Jason shares today.

To read more click here. You can also watch listen to our exchange on YouTube.

My hope is that this conversation inspires you to reevaluate your limits, find power in your community and invest more in adventure.

Needless to say, Jason has lived a wild life. This conversation nearly passed 2.5 hours—and I feel like we only scratched the surface.

Peace + Plants,

Rich