Is It Possible That All Are Safe?

Ryan: I've been kind of an apologist for him and some circles but never to the point of like not recognizing that he's just wrong about certain things. If you are an origin scholar or a fan of origin you can write Ryan at ryan j brady at just kiddingI think it maybe we should probably wrap up here soon but  just from the survey of the conversation we've had this this evening we see that a lot of issues are are at play here.