When Presidents Trump and Putin meet in Alaska on Friday, Volodymyr Zelensky will not even be present. Trump said on Monday that he would ‘try and win back territory’ for Ukraine – but also mentioned there will be ‘swapping’ of land. So what’s really on the table - and is it more than just ending the war?

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