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Guy Kawasaki

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

CHAPTER

You Get People to Overcome Their Laziness and Their Fear and Do Something Better Than They Could Ever Do on Their Own

John Sculley left Apple in 1987 but came back in 95. His job was to Maintain the Macintosh cult and developer community. He says arguably that was one of the big factors that enabled Apple to succeed So that was my job.

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