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Solar PV
Looking at the China solar PV market, it just sounds incredibly cutthroat and capital is competition seems to have been incredibly fierce. But on the other hand, you mentioned this real importance of New South Wales, which has been working on this topic since the 70s. And they just seem to be important that a lot of these like people were intrinsically motivated, either by science and like research or also as we were like speaking to before, the importance of climate change and environmentalism. So I think there's a really interesting spotlight here on just showing people's different motivations here.