In 2022, moving into 2023, the fastest rate of increases of the federal interest rate in history. So it is creating a lot of stress for something that I do again, want to stress is a 20.7 trillion dollar component of the US economy. The office environment around us, the campuses around us are not nearly as populated as they once were. And this was so much a how we work and corporate culture story for 2020 and 2021. It's becoming more of a financial story because these interest rates have climbed and are staying high.

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