Esther Perel is the author of meeting in captivity and the state of affairs. She's also the host of the podcasts, Where Should We Begin and How's Work? Love and War with Esther Perel is produced by Magnificent Noise on behalf of International Trauma Studies Program. This episode would not have been possible without the generous support of Elizabeth Verde-Wangler and Johann Berg. One Ukraine is helping Ukrainian couples and families affected by war by organizing community support groups. You can donate through PayPal at donateatoneukraine.com.

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