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Interview: Ryan Holiday

Story Grid Writing Podcast

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How Did You Get Your First Draft of Macavelli?

Wen: I couldn't choose the order of events right in the way that obstacle or ego, or my other books were. This one had to be somewhat chronological. The first thing i did was iented up reading something like 25 thousand pages of legal documents. And so then i made a time line. It was just a, it was a 55000 word, hundred and 55 page outline of time line,. So that was the first step. Then originally i was going to try to map this book on the hero's journey.

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