Kubernetes or MASOS?

Kubernetes has become such a standard thing that if you went into a lot of shops and said, hey, we're going to adopt Kubernetes, it wouldn't be a shocker to anyone. But I think that, you know, I've been through that same kind of down that same road with MASOS. And the fact that it was the right move, it takes time. You can always prototype something faster than you can change someone's mind about it.