The Debate Over Orca's Submarine Acquisition

There's no pushback from a basis of first principles, there's just a lack of consensus about what the best pathway is. The US political system is one of the most complex political systems in the world. I'm not certain unless we do the work now, to make the case and explain the rationale very clearly to the public, that that support will always be there. We can't take it for granted, it has to be argued for. And still on August, but turning to the Australian side, how do you think the debate is going over here? Because Labor seems rock-solid and behind Anthony Albanese, Josh Wilson is the only current MP who's dissented. But then