Minimalism Is Not About Deprivation

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CNN's John Sutter tries to go without his phone once a week. He and his wife do it on "Screen of Saturdays," when they throw their phones in a drawer. They also have an entryway rule, so that the phone doesn't follow them around the house. The minimalism thing is not about deprivation; it's about making room for something more meaningful.

Joshua Fields Millburn is one-half of The Minimalists. He is also a New York Times–bestselling author, Emmy-nominated Netflix filmmaker, podcaster, writing instructor, and international speaker.

But in this conversation, he spoke about why he doesn’t get too attached to those labels, the practice of grounding, why he doesn’t use his phone on Saturdays, why discipline is a misnomer, and much more.

(0:00) Intro

(4:55) How Do Accomplishments Feel?

(6:25) Kapil Gupta

(16:03) Why Are We Doing Things?

(21:28) Grounding

(27:01) Un-Schooling

(30:10) How Does Joshua Choose Teachers?

(33:00) Discipline Is A Misnomer?

(40:00) Screenless Saturdays

(45:00) Hugging Fans & Connection

(50:43) Josh on AI

(52:08) Fiction/Reading