"I know a lot of people at Apple that have been third party developers and they justifiably, for a moment anyway, really truly understood what it was like to be on the outside," he said. "But then they see how the sausage is made and suddenly excuses are made for this... I don't care." He added: "If you want us to help you not make it a pile of garbage, then we need to be able to do that"

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