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How Do You Draw That Out of Your Clients?
All of us have the temptation to look better than we are. And so I just talked to them about how every single person struggles with the various things. God is writing our story and sometimes we get mad at God for the chapters that he writes. We don't have to say everything we know. But in our conversations, I tell them, if you could consider me like your bartender or your priest or your best friend, just tell me what we're dealing with. Then we can shape it in a way that is honest, that is also true to the story.