
A Conversation Between Jonathan Gorard and Stephen Wolfram (September 1, 2023)
The Stephen Wolfram Podcast
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Introduction
The hosts delve into the concept of hypo-ruliad and its implications on our understanding of reality. They explore the idea of rulial relativity and ponder how the perspective of the observer may differ in the hypo-ruliad and hyper-ruliad.
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