I think no matter who you are there's definitely a story of somebody like you that has created something special. If you choose to give yourself permission to associate that potential that you know it's available to everybody. Well speaking of that potential being available to everybody you had this moment where you started to learn about JavaScript programming and remember reading about that in the book when you just kind of were absorbed I mean in what we might nowadays called flow. Talk to me about why so many people missed that moment in their lives because I feel like I missed it for the longest time until I got a lot older.