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#92 James & Per & Lisa manage chaos

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The Thought Leader in Digital Corporate Governance

LZ Granderson: I've been looking forward to talking to Lisa because she's the thought leader in digital governments. LZ: First of all, it's really great to have you on the show. Let's ring her up. Come see how you hang to us. In 99, you started your company around these same issues that you're working with now, which is amazing. That's correct. You had that idea already then. But honestly, the awareness comes from the experience. Yeah. Well, you know, yeah, that's good. He'll pat himself on the back for that. And so we're split into two groups and we're going to take a look at

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