Is There a Turning Back?

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Once he embraced this ideology, is there any turning back? I don't think there's a turning back. He embraces right-wing nationalism because it works and other leaders around the world have learned that lesson. The people who really go along with them, they live in a parallel reality. And at some point that parallel reality has to begin to be able to remake the actually existing world in its own image if it is to survive.

Elvedin Pasic lived through the Bosnian genocide in the early 1990s. So why is one of Bosnia’s leaders saying it never happened? And what happens if that leader, Milorad Dodik, wins a national election this weekend?

This episode was reported and produced by Haleema Shah, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Paul Robert Mounsey and Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Noel King.

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