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Katie Schide and Heather Jackson | 2024 Western States 100 Pre-Race Interviews

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A compilation of conversations with Katie Scheid and Heather Jackson discussing the upcoming 2024 Western States 100 race, with a shoutout to sponsors Brooks, Rabbit, Delta G, Keytones, and NAC for their support, along with a mention of NAC's nutrition products and new flavors.

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Speaker 2
Because we're not recording Patreon, so let's do an Am I the Asshole. Okay I found one. I haven't actually read it.
Speaker 1
That was insanely fast.
Speaker 2
Well, I searched break up, and the first one I think I've already read. Like on the podcast or in general? Yeah, I think I've already read it on the podcast.
Speaker 1
So we're reading a different one.
Speaker 2
We're reading the second one, and the title was intriguing. And it's not super long, so those were the criteria I was looking for. Let's
Speaker 1
hear it.
Speaker 2
Okay. Am I the asshole for telling my friend she should get over her breakup because it's bringing everyone down.
Speaker 1
Oh, hold on. Okay, interesting.
Speaker 2
Yes. Hey, I'm seeking some perspective on a situation that's been bugging me. So my friend, Jenny, went through a breakup and it's like a broken record that won't stop playing I've tried to be supportive but I'm reaching my limit here. We've all been there girl For instance during a movie night She kept pausing the film to tell us how the movie reminded her of all the good time she had with her ex I'm gonna finish the story before you and I can react on the looks we just gave each other. Okay. You
Speaker 1
talk about my two front teeth like coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 2
God. Okay. Last week at a coffee shop, she saw a guy who vaguely looked like her ex and she went into a detailed monologue about all their inside jokes. It's been weeks and every time we hang out, she can't help but bring up her ex and how sad she is. I finally had enough and straight up told her that she needs to move on already because her negativity is affecting the whole group. I get that breakups are tough, but it's exhausting to constantly hear about it. I suggested she try focusing on the positive aspects of life and maybe find a new hobby to distract herself.
Speaker 1
Sorry, I did a man post this. I'm
Speaker 2
starting to get that impression. Yeah. Jenny got super defensive and said that I was being insensitive. I didn't see it that way at all. I'm just tired of her dragging us into her personal drama. Some of our mutual friends are calling me out for being harsh, saying she needs time to heal, but honestly it's getting old hearing about her breakup all the time. So am I the asshole for telling Jenny to stop bringing us down with her break up blues?
Speaker 1
you want to tell him first about the looks before I start to point into this
Speaker 2
a little bit? As soon as you said something like, I stopped the movie. Every time both of us were like, don't you dare stop that movie. If you have the goddamn audacity to take me out of this situation with Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway, I swear to God. I want
Speaker 1
you to know I'm actually so fine with you crying during the movie. Yeah, that's okay. You live with kind of like open mouth cries a little bit. That's fine. Don't stop
Speaker 2
it. Don't stop it. We're all in it together. If you stop it, that immediately breaks all of the beautiful art. The cinematographer is producers, whatever I put together. So
Speaker 1
a clarifying question.
Speaker 2
Yes. Point of
Speaker 1
information. Yes. Does it say how long the relationship had been before they broke up?
Speaker 2
And it doesn't look like oh Okay, someone asked how long are we talking here for the breakup days weeks months years? How long were they did were they together and Opie responded? They broke up about two or three weeks ago, and she has talked about her partner pretty much most days since they broke up. I don't think they were together for a lot more than a year.
Speaker 1
A couple
Speaker 2
months to get over a year-long relationship is still an adequate amount of time. So
Speaker 1
I would actually say, so I'm gonna call them, not the asshole, that's where I'm gonna come in on this, but definitely a little indelicate. I mean, you're under no one's timeline to get over anything. True. And in fact, me and everyone else who listens to Taylor Swift never has. I
Speaker 2
don't even think Taylor Swift is a prerequisite for
Speaker 1
that. Exactly. So you don't have to get over anything that you don't want to, and if something is that emotionally impactful to you, that's totally fine. Like, truly, there's no second half of that sentence. You can just be sad. I think also, your friends get a chance to say when they are most readily available to like hear about those emotions, maybe like time and place, you know? Yes. Like you wouldn't talk about this when visiting them at their work, for example. You
Speaker 2
wouldn't stop a movie for it. Maybe
Speaker 1
that makes us too disassociative and compartmentalized.
Speaker 2
But also stop, who are you to stop the movie for other people? Like if it's like, if it's too, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1
It's so funny that you're so much more upset about that than anything else in this story. It's like actually
Speaker 2
the only thing I'm upset about. If it's two people and you pause the movie to say something, I get it. If it's just you and OP, whatever. If it's like a whole group of you, girl, but take away the remote from this person. Ignore them when they say stop the movie. Girl, what? You're inconveniencing a lot of people right now that are all having full and rich lives, and are maybe reacting to this in different ways than you, go by. You're
Speaker 1
not a burden. I want to go ahead and make sure that's also for dinner. You're not a
Speaker 2
burden, but stupid.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I think, okay, so here's an example. One of our dear friends went through a pretty nasty breakup a couple years ago and as a result, they ended up spending quite a bit of time at my house. And that was wonderful. I offered my house, I gave him a key, I'm like, Mikasa, Sukasa, as
Speaker 2
much as you want. Which they needed at that time. Correct, correct.
Speaker 1
And I think we do a decent job about showing up for each other. As a group, collectively, I think we all do a good job showing up for people. As
Speaker 2
a group, though, we also were like, after a certain number of months, we're all like- There
Speaker 1
was one day I came home, and our friend had been in my house for a while, and they were clearly upset about the situation still, and I remember just looking at them, and I was like, you know, I find you in the same place every day. Like I find you in the same, and having the same conversations every day. And I'm wondering when you're going to give yourself the chance to see what the second part of that conversation looks like, you know. And like, that's not to say that, like, you have to be done with this first part of the conversation, but like, I think another step forward. I think you're telling yourself some narratives that are keeping you in this loop. And I think you need to step forward. I don't think that unlocked everything for the friend, but I do think there's gentle ways to be like, I'm making room for your grief here, and I'm also saying, as a person who truly does love and care you, I wanna help carry you into a phase where we can be in a different type of sadness about
Speaker 2
this kind of stuff. It is also hard, especially if it's your first big breakup. You don't actually know how long you're going to need. And so sometimes if you're going through the breakup and then people keep kind of responding and like, oh, I'm so sorry, like how are you? Are you okay? It kind of like, oh, well, I should probably still be sad about this, right? And it takes sometimes for certain kinds of people, it will take someone being like, okay, well, now's the time to have hot girl break up summer. You know? Yeah, like we're gonna go out and we're gonna like figure this out for you. And sometimes that's the cue that at least some of like my girlfriends have needed like Like, okay, like... We're all hot and we don't need that man, you know. But it's hard to know how long is a good grieving time and it's hard to be able to be that person that's like, Get over it.
Speaker 1
Right. You know? Because I think what we're both saying is like, obviously love friends and treat them delicately but that doesn't necessarily mean you can't at times call them out. Like in one of my most recent breakups I pretended that I was handling it super well and then I walked across a ski parking lot barefoot in the middle of winter because I thought calling anyone to come pick me up after to my skis would make me a burden. And my friend looked at me and was like, hey, that was really stupid what you did. Really stupid? And you are not a burden. And so you should just call. And also by crying. Was it Lillian?
Speaker 2
Be honest. Sophie.
Speaker 1
Oh. And so it all was coming to me in Australian too. And she's like, not only was it stupid, and you hurt your feet and like legitimately endangered, like fraud fight at times, it also made it harder to find you. And so like this independence that you're like trying to insist on right now, like just. Doesn't make any goddamn sense. Right, it was literally just like come back to us. Like just fold in. Like just.
Speaker 2
You can rely on us in the way that you relied on your
Speaker 1
partner. Correct, whatever else, right, exactly. Yes, exactly. Well, I could really rely on it, but that's fine. I'm told that it's done. Sorry,
Speaker 2
what did you say? With love, parentheses, name, send text. That's a really deep cut that no one should know,
Speaker 1
because we haven't said that. No one should know, no. What I will say is this, it's just hard to love someone more than I'm loved by you guys. And that's why I go on a lot of trips. I drink. Yeah, we wanna start with last number four here. What's going on? No, it's the whole finished bottle. I love how this is actually a great one to end Scoring to Love Around too. We had a couple of different stories.
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's good. That is a good Scoringirt lover one for you, Grant. Anyway. And
Speaker 1
actually, really, sorry. I know they don't know, so this is unfair to them
Speaker 2
as our listeners. Grant had a break up shortly before the podcast started. Sometimes there are moments where everyone's like, Grant, pull it together.
Speaker 1
Like legitimately two months before we sat down and recorded the first episode. Oh yeah. Maybe less than a month before I actually officially agreed to be in the podcast. We recorded our first episode
Speaker 2
around Valentine's Day. Yeah. Yeah, so it was really close.
Speaker 1
But we had agreed to do it before then. Yes, it's true. And we started talking about, and that was like a month after it had happened. And so I like how you started off today's episode, being like, you wanna hold my hand? I saw you move. I want to hold my hand. Thanks. I said do you want to hold my hand? And then you just repeated back foot. Whatever. I
Speaker 2
don't want to hold your hand anymore.
Speaker 1
We started off this episode with you being like, boy, this podcast has really saved me from a lot of expensive ADD hobbies. Me. And we are ending it with me being like, this podcast really came at a moment when I needed to say something. I loved myself.
Speaker 2
I love that. That's so funny. I do too. Okay.
Speaker 1
Okay. Well, this is good. I think this has been a tight hour and a half. Who knows? Yeah, hour 40. All right, you can start. You can do the speech. Oh, fun, okay, okay, hold on. Well.
Speaker 2
It's been a while. You're
Speaker 1
still here, so that's hot. Yeah, again.
Speaker 2
Thank you.
Speaker 1
Also, I almost never say that's hot. I almost always say hot again. Because I like to think in the terms of my life, that what I find as hot is an ongoing conversation, that's never done.
Speaker 2
No. They are slipping her bed over.
Speaker 1
No, can I see her? I can see you seeing her, and I can see no one seeing me. Ha ha, get
Speaker 2
a small dog. That's all I can say. On
Speaker 1
social media, we are Well I Laugh podcast. We have a website, which is great, Well I Laugh podcast. We are available. Wellilaugh.com. Where you get your podcast. If you would like to watch us.
Speaker 2
Please rate us also. Oh, are we? Yeah. Is we back to that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we should always be saying that. And I always forget.
Speaker 1
Sorry. I say this to the kids whenever they say something corny, and it drives them crazy. Don't forget to like and subscribe And
Speaker 2
the screens gonna show you just a quick question if you don't mind. Sorry,
Speaker 1
it's at 25. Which is at patreon and
Speaker 2
it's well off podcast.
Speaker 1
I thought I heard you speak. No, I'm kidding. This is good. It's always well I laugh pod at gmail.com. Goodbye. Love you. That's the worst sign off we've done.

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