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Leo Babuda, Zen Habits
LZ Granderson: There's this online minimalism movement that really kicked off pre social media. LZ: Leo Babuda, Zen habits was one of the original guys who wrote a guide about simplifying your life slowing down and he lived in Guam with six kids but paid off all his debts. He says if we're going to live cheap, we want to live somewhere that's fascinating. The fire culture morphed into Mr. Money mustache which then got shut down because they got too geeky. And now it's more geeks here like I've my spreadsheet for 3.6 return post tax on my SEP IRA, you know,SEP is short for Social Security Pension Plan