
Jessica Nordell
Design Matters with Debbie Millman
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How to Change the Way We Treat People of Color
There are approaches that try to tackle bias head on. And then there are approaches that sort of use indirect methods to change people's behavior. I do know that certain changes are possible when my wife Roxanne Gay wrote the book Hunger and Memoir of My Body. She talks quite a lot about how doctors treated her, assuming that any ailment was weight-based because she was bigger than they thought she should be.
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