The Role of Mark in Elders Meetings

Bobby Dever: "I feel like one of my roles as someone who has been an elder for a long time is to help the other elders realize, okay, this is an issue we really need to follow Mark" He says he's seen many times Mark is very happy to let that thing go forward sometimes because he doesn't appreciate how critical his leadership is at times. But if we're trying to think about this in terms of churches out there where it's maybe it's brand new pastor,maybe it's not worth doing this? What would even you say for the associate pastor when he becomes senior pastor and looks around the table and sees all these men are out on the table looking