i'd like to start off by asking you what that parable means to you your life and in the work that you do. I think it's a very good parable for what actually happens to us psychologically in the day to day, in ta minute, a minute of our existence. When we tend to kind of chew over distressing and angering things that happen to us... We're getting ourselves more angry and more upset and more resentful and more bitter. But it feels extraordinarily compelling to kind of replay those scenes over and over again. It's much harder to actually tryin and assert acceptance and and gratitude and perspective on them.

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