John Defterios: Raising money is certainly means to an end, and it depends on who you want your business to be. But the decision to raise money is a really, really important one, because it certainly changes the game for you as the founders of the company. For us, like i said, matna, we wanted to be a speedboat, not necessarily a sailboat, because the market's growing so quickly. So raising money was definitely something we had to do. We knew if we get to exomen a revenue, we'd get no traditional ventry capital interested in the business. A kind of like oas saing earlier, starting small and chopping things into

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