"If you weren't surrounded by people who also seemed like they wanted to make numbers go up and things like that, i think you, i think, care a lot less," he says. "I find myself appreciating the impact of ... kind of a pir group and of like kind of an information diet as it were" He adds: 'When i see someone who has got a certain type of life style, and i think, ohk, that you know, tha's cool'