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182. A Conversation With UFOlogist Alan Steinfeld on How Believers and Skeptics Think About UFOs

The Michael Shermer Show

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Is There More to Reality Than Our Conditioning?

We need to go to another level to realize that we're all connected. Maybe the atomic bomb has ripped a hole in the time space continuum, it does do something like that. I love the line by terence maccano who says, culture is not your friend, because it keeps you in a box. And i think more artists and creatives are seeing other levels of reality. It opens you up to these other perceivable worlds. There really is a dumbledore, and there really is a voldemor,. We don't know why wer even talking about fiction, but it's beautiful fiction.

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