The pursuit of a theory of everything becomes like a drug to the human ego that's right so it is a huge motivating factor I don't deny that but there are better ways to motivate people then this way okay. Even if in that framework a new theory could lead to an explanation of some some new explanation of some phenomena it would still be incomplete in a sense because it wouldn't be mathematical rigorous you see what I meanbecause the whole framework is not yet on on a firm foundation, he says.