Fossil fuel systems did not cause sexism, but rather make possible this relationship to energy as something that seemed almost amazingly bountiful. And I think you can see that mapped on to sometimes the solar and wind that one day we will actually have free energy. There isn't actually free energy and there's not a life that's not dependent upon other people and things. It's more about how do we better value that and how do we distribute it in a way that is more fair.

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