Reasons for not adding state access lists to Ethereum and EVM chains

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This chapter discusses the reasons why Ethereum and other EVM chains are not adding state access lists, as it would break compatibility with existing applications. It explores the tradeoffs between using state lists and not using them, and the concept of parallel execution in the EVM.

Hasu and Jon catchup on what’s new in the EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) and SVM (Solana Virtual Machine) worlds.

For the EVM, Ethereum has pushed vertical scaling efforts to other chains. This includes Monad, who is building a new EVM L1 with fundamental optimizations to improve scalability.

For the SVM, the Solana ecosystem continues to gain momentum across the board. Meanwhile, Eclipse is gearing up to launch their SVM Ethereum L2.

DBA is an investor in Eclipse Laboratories, Inc. and SOL. Jon has material personal investments in SOL, JitoSOL, ETH, stETH, and TIA. Hasu has material personal investments in ETH and Monad.

Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(00:25) Catch up

(00:56) VM Performance Improvements

(02:32) Solana & Eclipse

(04:26) DA vs Execution Bottlenecks

(05:53) Rollups & Parallel Execution

(07:10) Breakpoint

(08:29) Solana & Eclipse – Competitive or Complementary?

(12:48) Ethereum & Solana Funds

(13:33) DBA Research Club

(15:01) What is a VM?

(16:33) Optimistic Parallel Execution vs. Access Lists

(23:45) Solana Resource Pricing

(25:03) Local Fee Markets

(30:48) Liveness Failures

(31:58) A Bottleneck vs. *The* Bottleneck

(35:39) State Growth

(41:29) Weak Statelessness

(45:33) State Expiry & State Rent

(51:10) Solana Un-merklizes State

(51:55) Client Level Optimizations

(53:45) Optimizations for New vs. Old Chains

(57:17) Will Everyone Converge?

(01:00:36) Outro

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Jon Charbonneau - https://twitter.com/jon_charb

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Solana - https://twitter.com/solana

Eclipse - https://twitter.com/EclipseFND

Monad - https://twitter.com/monad_xyz

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