You should try to have a deck of two or three different talks that you can start to shop around to different conferences. You could go ahead and take something the browser page, transitapi. That's something brand new, that's something literally nobody knows about. And then put together, like a little abstract, a bunch of bullet points, things that people will take away from it. So there are often these things called call for papers. There used to be an email list called c f p weekly. Every single weekhe would send you an emal with, i don't know, probably five, ten, sometimes 15 different conferences around the world. I think at that point it is mostly

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