"Ultimately the only real solution ... is to stop using platforms and start using protocols, things like Ghost and Odysee and places like that. There is no CEO that you can sufficiently pressure into deplatforming somebody. It just technologically can't be done because of how decentralized blockchain is."

That is what Glenn Greenwald said in an interview with me this week, but he also recognized that he's not sure these protocols are pervasive and user friendly enough yet. Greenwald has been embracing the world of alternative media platforms recently, building one of the most successful Substacks, where he sends regular articles directly to his subscribers without fear of censorship.

00:00 Intro
00:14 The Fourth Estate
05:12 Government Control of the Narrative
11:34 The Migration to Alternative Media
20:06 The Ultimate Solution to Censorship

Glenn Greenwald was central to the publication of the Snowden revelations, was awarded the 2013 George Polk Award, and his journalism led to The Guardian and The Washington Post winning a Pulitzer Prize.

In 2014, he launched The Intercept with Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill, and was co-founding editor until he resigned in October 2020 over censorship.

Since then has been publishing on Substack, an online newsletter-based journalism platform, which you can find here: https://greenwald.substack.com/

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