Do We Really Need Rl?

Rl has been a meme that's been popping up every once in a while more recently is that do we even need rl like yon lakun had you know a slide not long ago saying basically let's try to either minimize rl or or use um more like uh shooting methods and learn better models. i think if i'm not misremembering i think michael litman former advisor would you know definitely fall into that camp so i think we could make a lot of people less upset by not saying that that's not rl for plus maybe comment number one comment number two is we really shouldn't do rl at all.