Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss how to survive the holidays. What’s the best way to engage (or disengage) a contentious relative who wants to argue about politics, and how do we remain united as churches and families in these divided times? Professor, author, and preacher Tony Campolo died last week. Shane Claiborne returns to discuss his friendship with Campolo and his legacy of challenging the American church with the “red letters” of the Bible. Also this week—what’s the real goal behind protecting public nativity displays, and disappointed political witches.

0:00 - Intro

1:33 - Show Starts

2:50 - Theme Song

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5:24 - Interview 

6:42 - Political Witches

12:54 - The Liberty Council’s Annual Report

17:19 - Tony Campolo’s Passing

26:35 - Being Grateful

46:03 - Favorite Conflict-Deflection Topic

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56:48 - Interview

1:06:34 - Dealing with Pushback

1:12:00 - Where “Red Letter Christians” Comes From

1:20:46 - What Tony Was Like to Be Around

1:29:15 - End Credits  

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Witches Report Their Spells Against Trump Aren’t Working: “He Has a Shield” https://cbn.com/news/us/witches-report-their-spells-against-trump-arent-working-he-has-shield

Liberty Council’s Friend or Foe Campaign:

https://lc.org/newsroom/details/111124-friend-or-foe-christmas-campaign-2025

Tony Campolo’s Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRBM_YY_YX0

Other resources:

With God Daily with Skye Jethani:

https://www.withgoddaily.com/

Voxology Podcast with Mike Erre:

https://pod.link/1049250910

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