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383 The Conversion Code 2nd Ed. by Chris Smith

The Marketing Book Podcast

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The Billion Dollar Boiler Room

Chris Smith: I saw you some years back at one of the inbound conferences. You look like a younger Tim Robbins from Shawshank Redemption, which was like a, oh gosh, 20, 25 years ago. Now I have actually seen you in person. This is after I'd interviewed you the first time in 2016. And there must have been a line of about 15 people waiting to talk to you.

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